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MEmmemi Max: The Democratic Alliance (DA), which challenges the recently signed Act (DA), has filed documents in the High Court, as this law states that it is unconstitutional and practical. Well, let’s examine this in a little more. This has really become a controversial issue. Da Federal Council President Helen Jill is with me and is leading our project today. Helen, very loving welcome. Do you believe you have a successful case?
Helen Jill: Thank you very much, Jeremy. Yes, I hope we have a winning case. I am always very careful before a case goes to court, because you can never say that you are sure, but I think we have a very strong case.
Jeremy Max: Why did you compare this law, and I quote the dark days of apartheid?
Helen Jill: Well, I don’t think I used those right words, but I certainly used the word apartheid, and I tell you why. This is because the many people who know the Cape Town, with those I have spoken, to turn their property into a white group part and then move them with minimum compensation, it took them many years and years for them to take headlines to their homes.
So you have to be a great warning for all who do not provide that kind of power to the state.
You do not provide an open force to the state to start confiscating assets that are less than the market value or in an open-ending operation. It is dangerous.
Our restructuring activities are very important, and the DA supports, we expect the restoration of the Land Rights Act and the Land Reform Act, which we are fully supportive, but they imagine that they need property protection to invest in those laws, because they are fully supported. Understanding. That is why they had those cut dates.
This new 12.4 in the Confiscation Act opens a door that has never been unprecedented and creates the massive security of the property, and we do not believe that a government should have that power again.
Jeremy Max: How can you respond to critics who claim your opposition to simply protect your opposition, rather than ensuring equal land distribution?
Helen Jill: We completely support three actions that run equal land distribution. We are very frustrated by the lack of government and their complete disability to manage the process.
That is the restructuring of the Land Rights Act. Behind that, we and two land reform activities are very frustrated with the government’s inability to get that move.
It is not going to help keep another rule that expands the powers of the government as an act that should not be first. So the confiscation law is for infrastructure. When the government wants to create roads and bridges and railway lines and dams, they need to cut your property to do so, and then they need to negotiate a fair market value with you. But in a court that is less than the market value, there are times when it is possible and judged.
But it is for the most specific purposes. The confiscation law is never for restoration. There are three other actions that deal with it. But now, the ANC (African National Congress) has passed a resolution in their Congress in 2017, saying that there should be a tool and a legal tool for seizing land without compensation, and they are hiding in the Confiscation Act.
We cannot accept it, we cannot say that we are protecting white property owners.
We protect each property owner. We want more people to have property.
That is why the DA. We offer many headlines that manage. We want more people to be property owners. We want them to have headlines and we want to protect their property protection.
Jeremy Max: There is no doubt that this is a political hot potato. If this court challenge is approved that you have withdrawn from the political runway, I ask you that you do not have the political authority to oppose the acquisition of the land, so you returned to the courts?
Helen Jill: Well, we have certainly political power to do that, we can bring down the government, but you can only bring down the government once and then lose your influence. If you have a solid case that you can take to court, take it to the court and that is what you are using.
We have a solid case to declare this law as zero and void, and then we will start it from the very beginning and fight it. We take this case to extend our political runway and not close it.
Jeremy Max: Helen, within the corridors of power, to speak, even if you go to court, is there a debate or negotiations? Is there still space for any compromise? Do you have a desire among your partners within the Gunu (National Unity Government) to discuss this further?
Helen Jill: Well, we hope to be always, but they are bound by the resolution of the Anc conference. If you remember Article 25 of the Constitution, they tried to change the constitution. We fought a great struggle against it. When they could not change the constitution, they went to the Confiscation Act, which means that, as I have now explained, the wrong place to keep it.
So we speak openly. We never stopped talking. We want to talk more, obviously, we want to have someone on a regular basis with Anc.
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But we have seen what it is to amend the law to get the subject of the problem, and it really takes the whole thing, openly.
Jeremy Max: You are talking about bringing down the government once. I am eager to learn how stressful it is now in Kunu.
Helen Jill: Yes. It apparently causes stress. We do not have to create numbers for the ANC to implement the National Democratic Revolution (NTR). We are not here to do that. Anc should get that message loudly and clearly, and they may think that there are no alternatives to the DA, because EFF (Economic Freedom Fighters) and MK (Umkhonto Wesizwe) do not want to come to power. But I can tell you, and less the Cyril Ramaphosa and his colleagues want to come to the EF and MK regime because its price is the political life of Cyril Ramaphosa. They insist on freeing him.
So we have got more foreign exchange than we use, and I think we will use it more and more.
We do not want to always fight with our alliance allies, but then we need to gain some success, and make them very clear that we need real concrete victories.
Jeremy Max: I am eager to know how you adjust the legal opposition you are applying for this act, John Steinhuzen will support Ramaposa’s diplomatic efforts to ensure the United States; It seems contradictory.
Helen Jill: Well, if you are going to pass such laws, we have told ANC that you should expect the West to reject us. On the other hand, we understand what it means if the US and Western countries have cut off the help and trade, and we do not want it. We want South Africa to actually be a friendly state of the West, and that is why we want, because the values of the constitution, the rule of law, the market -based economy, the communalism, are all the product of Western thought.
So we are totally obliged to drive those close links. But we are telling the ANC, if you are going to be the focus of geo -political forces, it is increasingly seen as a Western anti -joint agency, for example, the court and other things like that, such as the court and other things like that, then the West Clap (Slap) They are going to go.
We would like to tell President Trump not to punish ordinary South Africans for the failure of the ANC.
Do not cut off the AIDS relief money you have provided for many years. Do not disconnect our priority report under the $ 8 billion in Febfar (US President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief), Africa Development and Opportunity Act (AGOA).
Do not impose sanctions on South Africa. Please expand the trade and do not reduce trade.
We know President Trump and we know that he is going to say, right, what does the United States out of this deal? At least we must not be aligned, at least. We would like to say that our foreign policy is not revamped, but it has not been revamped.
What we do with many rogue states, we are joining with anti -democratic forces around the world and then unhappy. Suddenly we are not aligned in Russia, but in the Middle East, we are not aligned. This is very strange for me.
Jeremy Max: So I think I hear you say you say that the US does not give this diplomatic delegation a great opportunity for success?
Helen Jill: No, we. We have also received our own channels that we use at all times and we have to say the channels we use all the time, please don’t punish South Africa. The highest unemployment rate of any country in the world and the most important thing for future stability is to develop the economy for the welfare of the United States and the West.
Do not develop the economy without investing. If you do not have property protection, you reduce investment.
So on the one hand, we argue with Anc about what you want to recover South Africa. On the other hand, we tell President Trump not to reduce South Africa’s throat. We are dealing with problems. But please don’t cut the throat of South Africa. Please continue your support and help us fight these crazy policies.
Jeremy Max: Thank you very much. That is the President of Da Federal Council Helen Jill, commend your time.
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